List of people with the most children – Quality maybe not just Quantity ?

List of people with the most children
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This article lists people who have parented the most children.
Contents
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• 1 Lists
o 1.1 Mothers
o 1.2 Fathers
• 2 See also
• 3 References
Lists[edit]
Mothers[edit]
This section lists mothers who have borne the most children.
# Children Mother/Couple Notes
69 Mrs. and Mr. Vassilyev (1st wife) Vassilyev and his first wife, whose name is unknown, holds the record for most children a couple has parented. She gave birth to a total of 69 children: sixteen pairs of twins, seven sets of triplets and four sets of quadruplets between 1725 and 1765, in a total of 27 births. 67 of the 69 children born were said to have survived infancy.[1][2] (Vassilyev also had six sets of twins and two sets of triplets with a second wife, for another 18 children in only eight births; he fathered a total of 87 children.)
Doubts have been raised about the veracity of the claim.[3]

57 Mrs. and Mr. Yakov Kirillov The first wife of peasant Yakov Kirillov from the village of Vvedensky, Russia, gave birth to 57 children in a total of 21 births. She had four sets of quadruplets, seven sets of triplets and ten sets of twins. All of the children were alive in 1755, when Kirillov, aged 60, was presented at Court.[4]
As with the Vassilyev case, the truth of these claims has not been established, and is indeed, highly improbable.
55 Leontina (née Espinosa) and Gerardo Secunda Albina Leontina Albina (born 1926) married in Argentina in 1943 and gave birth to her 55th registered child in San Antonio, Chile, in 1981, aged 55.[5] She claimed to have 9 more children, but none of them were registered.[6][unreliable source?] Gerardo Secunda Albina (born 1921) stated that and they had five sets of triplets (all boys) before coming to Chile. Eleven children were lost in an earthquake. Only 40, 24 boys and 16 girls, survived.[7]

53 Barbara and Adam Stratzmann It is claimed that Barbara Stratzmann (c. 1448 – 1503) of Bönnigheim, Germany, gave birth to 53 children (38 sons and 15 daughters) in a total of 29 births by 1498. She had one set of septuplets, one set of sextuplets, four sets of triplets and five sets of twins. Nineteen of the children were stillborn, the eldest surviving was eight years old in 1498.[8]
As with the Vassilyev and Kirillov cases above, the survival of any one of the offspring of the alleged multiple births is questionable: as is the likelihood of so many multiple births in an era before fertility drugs.
52 Maddalena Granata Maddalena Granata (born 1839) of the City of Nocera, Italy, who married at age 28, had given birth to 52 living and dead children, 49 being males, by 1886. Dr. de Sanctis, of Nocera, stated that she had 15 sets of triplets.[9][10]

42 Elizabeth and John Mott Elizabeth Mott of Monks Kirby, Warwickshire, married in 1676 and produced 42 live-born children. She died in 1720.[11]

41 Alice Hookes According to the inscription on a gravestone in Conway Church cemetery, Gwynedd, North Wales, Nicholas Hookes (died 1637) was the 41st child of his mother Alice Hookes, but there were no further details.[7]

39 Elizabeth and William Greenhill
Thomas Greenhill was the last child of 39 by his mother Elizabeth (1615–1681) and William Greenhill.[12] The family consisted of 7 sons and 32 daughters.[13] Not only is this a large number of live newborns but unusual in that apart from one pair of twins they were single births.
35 Mrs. and Mr. Harrison Mrs. Harrison, the wife of an undertaker residing in Vere Street, London, gave birth to her 35th child by one husband in 1736.[14]

33 Mary and John Jonas Mary Jonas (1814–1899) gave birth to 33 children, including 15 sets of boy–girl twins.[15] All were christened, but few achieved adulthood. 10 children were still alive when their father John died in 1892.[16]

32 Moddie and Perccell Oliver Mrs. Moddile M. Oliver, aged 50, wife of a Lumberton, NC, sharecropper, was expecting her 33rd child in 1959. At that time, 22 of her children were alive. Whether her 33rd child was born, was not noted. [17]

32 Maria Addolorata Casalini Mrs. Casalini (born 1929) of Brindisi, Italy, married at 17 and gave birth to her 32nd child on November 11, 1970. She had two sets of quadruplets, one of triplets, one of twins and nineteen single births. Only 15 children survived.[18]

32 Madalena and Raimundo Carnauba Madalena Carnauba of Ceilândia, Brazil, married at 13 and gave birth to 32 children, 24 sons and 8 daughters.[19]

32 Maria Benita Olivera Mrs. Olivera (born 1939) of San Juan, Argentina, gave birth to her 32nd child on 31 January 1989. All children were believed to be alive at that time.[20] She was married twice, and during 32 years of her marriages she had a set of triplets (born at age 13) and two sets of twins.[21]

30 Rebecca Town Mrs. Town (1807–1851) of Keighley, Yorkshire, had 30 children, but only one reached age 3.[7]

29 Anna Theresia Pleyl First wife of Martin Pleyel (see fathers), a schoolmaster from Ruppersthal in Lower Austria in the 18th century.[22] Their 24th child was composer Ignaz Pleyel (b. 1757).[23]

28 Mabel Murphy Mrs. Murphy (born 1898) of Lisnaskea, Co. Fermanagh, N. Ireland was reported to have produced 28 children (12 stillborn) in 32 years of marriage by December 1949, but this claim has not been fully substantiated.[24]

27 Glendora Pope Mrs. Pope, the wife of a Idaho carpenter, gave birth to her 27th child in June 1939, at the age of 45. At that time, 14 children were living. All were single births. [25]

27 Marie-Elise (née Chamberland) and Heliodore Cyr Marie-Elise Chamberland and Heliodore Cyr married in 1928 and had 27 children by 1959, all single-births, 19 of them survived to adulthood.[26] Mr. Cyr, a potato farmer from Saint-François-de-Madawaska, New Brunswick,[27] appeared on the TV show I’ve Got A Secret three times – after the births of his 25th, 26th and 27th child respectively.[28]

25 Lapa Piagenti and Giacomo di Benincasa Their 23rd child was Saint Catherine of Siena.[29]

25 Ada Watson Mrs. Watson (1886–1974) of Cambridge gave birth to 25 children, including three sets of twins, during the period 1904–1931. All of the children attained majority.[7]

24 Kathleen Scott Mrs. Scott (b. 4 July 1914) of Dublin gave birth to her 24th child on 9 August 1958. Twenty of her children were still alive in 1990.[20]

24 Marcella S. (née Mills) Big Crow and James M. Big Crow Sr. Marcella Mills-Big Crow (1924–1989) of Pine Ridge, South Dakota had 24 children, including eight pairs of twins. Five children died in infancy.[30]

23 Queen Darejan and King Heraclius II of Georgia
They had a total of 23 children, 13 of whom lived to adulthood.[citation needed]

23 Tabatha Marcum and Silas Mainord Married in 1811, they lived in Overton County, Tennessee and produced 23 children. One of their daughters, Syreana, later became the mother of 17.[31]

23 Grace Bagnato Grace Bagnato and her husband had 23 children; 9 of these were conceived in order to compete for a bequest by a Torontoeccentric, in what became known as the Great Stork Derby.[32]

22 Ursula and Franz Adolf Dietrich von Ingelheim The German Count Franz Adolf Dietrich von Ingelheim (1659–1742) of Mainz and his wife Ursula (1668–1730) had 22 children between 1683 and 1712.[33]

22 Marie Massicotte and Philippe Dontigny Born between 1888 and 1915 at Champlain, Québec; 14 of the children died in infancy. There were no multiple births.[34]

22 Mrs. and Mr. Hostetter Roy Hostetter, a 46-year-old Pennsylvania miner, and his wife, aged 42, announced birth of their 22nd child in May 1941.[35]

22 Mrs. Dick Renata Mrs. Dick Renata, a Maori, of Hawkes Bay, New Zealand, gave birth to her 22nd child in November 1948. Fourteen of her children survived, including the 2nd born, who was 21 and was himself a father.[36]

22 Madeleine and Marce Devaud Madeleine Devaud, wife of a village dairyman of La Gorre, western France, gave birth to her 22nd child, a boy, in March 1952, at the age of 42. The Devaud couple, married for 24 years, had 13 girls and seven boys. Two children died in infancy.[37][38]

22 Mabel Constable Mrs. Constable (born 1920), of Long Itchington, Warwicks, gave birth to 22 children, including a set of triplets and two sets of twins.[39]

22 Margaret McNaught Mrs. McNaught (born 1923), of Balsall Heath, Birmingham, gave birth to 22 children, 12 boys (2 of them died in infancy) and 10 girls, all single births.[7]

22 Sylvester and Mary Hemsing Mary Hemsing (1913-2014) of Rolling Hills, Alberta, Canada, gave birth to 11 boys and 11 girls, as well as one stillborn girl. [40]

22 Alvin and Lucille Miller Mrs. Miller gave birth to her first child at age 17; her last child was born when she was 43. All 22 children lived to adulthood. The family also took in several foster children.[41][42]

22 Unidentified Gypsy woman A 38-year-old Gypsy woman of Lom, Bulgaria, gave birth to her 22nd child in March 1998. She and her husband had no jobs, 17 children lived with them and five were in orphanages.[43]

21 Josephine & Michael Salzo Sr. New Haven Connecticut. The 21 children included the first known surviving set of quadruplets in New Haven CT., triplets, and two sets of twins.[44]

21 Olivia (née Whitmore) and Arthur Guinness
Guinness was an Irish brewer. Only ten of their children lived to adulthood.[45]

21 Anna and Henry Crocker 18 of their children lived to adulthood.[46]

21 Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar This family is the subject of “19 Kids and Counting”. One baby died due to miscarriage. Another one was stillborn. The eldest son “Joshua Duggar” is 26; whom has given Jim Bob and Michelle 3 grand children.[citation needed] The second eldest daughter is currently pregnant with her first child.
21 Edith Hill Mrs. Hill, of Leicester, England, the wife of a postman, gave birth to her 21st child in December 1960, at the age of 46. Her eldest son was 30 by that time and she already had grandchildren. Two of her children died at infancy, the other were nine boys and ten girls.[47]

21 Leonora and Yanosh Nameni Leonora Nameni, of Ostritsa, Hertsa Raion, Chernivtsi Oblast, gave birth to her 21st child in October 2013, at the age of 44, becoming the most prolific mother in Ukraine. Leonora and Yanosh are followers of the Apostolic Christian Church (Nazarene)and do not practice birth control. The Nameni family has 11 sons and 10 daughters, including two sets of twins.[48]

20 Gertrude Louisa Rowe Goodley and George Thomas Jolley Gertrude and George married in 1905 and had 20 children between 1906 and 1932 when Gertrude was aged 46. The family were from the Tolaga Bay area on New Zealand’s North Island.[citation needed]

20 Marie Verrault and Pierre Edouard Cauchon Born between 1853 and 1882 at Château-Richer, Québec, Canada, sixteen of the children died in infancy, and one as a young adult. There were no multiple births.[34]

20 Rose Alma and Roland Letendre The youngest died as a result of birth injury. All the children were born in Drummondville, Quebec. The combined age of the mother (94) and 19 children (72–50) adds up to 1256 years as of August 25, 2012.[49]

20 The mother of Maria Goncales Moreira Not much is known about this case except the fact that she had ten sets of twins. Her daughter also has ten sets of twins (see below).[50]

20 Maria Goncales Moreira Mrs. Moreira of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, gave birth to her tenth set of twins (identical boys) on July 3, 1984. Her other twins were 16 girls and 2 boys. She delivered the first at age 13. Her mother also has ten sets of twins.[50]

20 Jessie Campbell Mrs. Campbell (born 1946) of Struan, Isle of Skye, Scotland, gave birth to her 20th child on 22 January 1990.[51]

20 Julianna and Ernő Lukács Julianna Lukács and her husband, a Hungarian farmer, have six sons and fourteen daughters. They live in Tolna, Hungary, in a mansion farming on 3,336 acres (1,350 ha). The first child was born in 1966 and the last in 1991.[52]

20 Elena and Alexander Shishkin Elena Shishkina (born 1958) of Voronezh Oblast, Russia, gave birth to her 20th child in April 2003, becoming the most prolific mother in Russia; her eldest son was 24 at that time. The Shishkins have 9 sons and 11 daughters, and already had 20 grandchildren by November 2012.[53]

19 Amelia Montpetit and Charles-Napoleon Potvin Starting in 1911, this mother in Western Canada produced 19 children, of which 16 made it to adulthood. The last two children, born in 1933, were fraternal twins.[54]

19 Beatrice and Leonard Collins This Peterborough, Ontario mother gave birth to 19 children, including three sets of twins. At the time of her death in 2010, at age 93, she was survived by 16 children, 50 grandchildren and 54 great-grandchildren.[55][56]

19 Marie Hébert and Jean-Baptiste Brodeur dit Lavigne Born between 1713 and 1739 at Varennes, Québec, eleven of the children died in infancy. There were no multiple births.[34]

19 Susannah (née Annesley) and Samuel Wesley
Ten of their children, three sons and seven daughters, lived to adulthood.[57]

19 Ricardo Silva Silva and Mercedes Henríquez Encina Chilean cardinal Raúl Silva Henríquez was the 16th son of the Silva Henríquez family.[58]

19 Margarita and Evgeniy Nikolaev In 1993 they were the most prolific family in Russia. They had 19 children and lived in Velikiye Luki. Margarita Nikolaeva was a tailor and her husband Evgeniy was a carpenter.[59]

19 Pauline Katherine (Hass) Bullough Pauline married John Bullough in 1910 in South Hadley, Massachusetts. The children were born from 1911 to 1937 in single pregnancies. All were born in South Hadley and lived in a farm house in that town. [60]

19 Sima Zalmanov Sima Zalmanov, of Safed, Israel, gave birth to her 19th child in September 2008, at the age of 47. Sima was the principal of the city’s Chabad high school for girls. Sima and her husband were married for 27 years by that time and had produced nine boys and ten girls; their eldest son was 26. Six of the couple’s children were married, and they were waiting for the birth of their eighth grandchild due the next month.[61]

19 Kelly and Gil Bates Friends of Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar. The family is the subject of United Bates of America.[62]

18 Mrs. and Mr. Feodor Vassilyev (2nd wife)
Vassilyev and his second wife, whose name is also unknown, gave birth to a total of 18 children. She gave birth to six pairs of twins and two sets of triplets. Most of her children were alive by 1782.[63]

18 Barbara (née Schultz) and John Oesch Barbara Schultz Oesch (1803–1881) married John Oesch at the age of 17 and gave birth to eighteen children by February 1849. Fifteen of them survived to adulthood.[64]

18 Mable (née Richardson) and Thomas Norman Mable Richardson and Thomas Norman married in the mid 1920s when she was 16 and he was 21. According to the 1930 Bibb County, Georgia census, Thomas worked as a self-employed contractor and brick mason and Mable was a homemaker. She gave birth to 18 children (twelve boys and six girls) in eighteen confinements during the first half of more than 50-year marriage. All except one survived to adulthood. The African-American couple resided in Macon, Georgia in a two-story home built by Thomas. Thomas died in 1977, followed by Mable in 1984.[citation needed]

18 Shirley (née Schlegel) and James Neel Shirley Neel (1951–2009) of Wamego, Kansas married James Neel in 1969 and had 18 children, 8 boys and 10 girls, one of which died in infancy.[65][unreliable source?]

18 Fatma and Mehmet Saygi Fatma Saygi of Adana, Turkey, gave birth to her sixth set of triplets in 2004, at the age of 28. Eight children from previous pregnancies were alive at that time.[66]

18 Claudia Maria da Silva Claudia Maria da Silva, an unemployed woman from São Paulo, southeast Brazil, gave birth to her 18th child in 2007, aged 40. The father of the newborn girl was only 15 years old, a friend of one of Maria’s sons. Da Silva said she had been aware of contraception methods but chose never to use them, and gave birth to her first child at age 11. Since then she has been pregnant 27 times and has had nine abortions. Of her 18 children, only three were living with her.[67]

18 Livia and Alexandru Ionce Livia Ionce gave birth to her 18th child, a girl, in British Columbia in 2008, at the age of 44 when their other 17 children, nine girls and eight boys, were from 20 months to 23 years old. Ionces immigrated to Canada from Romania in 1990. Alexandru Ionce said he did not know if they would have more children.[68]

18 Unidentified couple from Rehovot
An Israeli woman in her mid-40s gave birth to her 18th child in June 2009, when her eldest child was 21. The woman and her husband are Ultra-Orthodox Jews and have twelve boys and six girls.[69]

18 Nadezhda and Ioann Osyak Nadezhda Osyak of Rostov Oblast, Russia, gave birth to her 18th child, a girl, in July 2009; her eldest son was 20 at that time. The Osyak family has ten sons and eight daughters, and already had five grandchildren by August 2009.[70]

18 Kathryn and Kenneth O’Kane Kathryn and Kenneth O’Kane of Gays Mills, Wisconsin, USA, gave birth to 18 children, nine girls and nine boys; both her eldest and youngest was sons. The O’Kane family had only 1 set of twins who died at birth, a boy and girl, and at the time of Kenneth’s death already had over 43 grandchildren and 25 great-grandchildren.[71]

17 Edith Thurgood Her and her husband had 17 children, none of which were multiple births. They were all born and raised in the London Borough of Enfield.[citation needed]

17 Juliana of Stolberg
She had five children with her first husband Philip II, Count of Hanau-Münzenberg and twelve with her second husband William I, Count of Nassau-Dillenburg.[citation needed]

17 Elizabeth and Franz Stefanigo They lived in present-day Vojvodina, Serbia. Elizabeth (1837–1922) and Franz Stefanigo (1836–1917) had 17 children (1855–1881) none of them were twins.[citation needed]

17 Maria and Ivan Mendeleev Famous Russian chemist and inventor Dmitri Mendeleev was rthe seventeenth child of his parents. Eight of his siblings died in infancy and one sister died from tuberculosis aged 14.[72]

17 Syreana Mainord and Allen Brock Hull They lived in Overton County, Tennessee and produced 17 children. One of their sons, William Pascal Hull, was the father of politician Cordell Hull.[31]

17 Mary Ann (née Strout) and Isaac Goss They married 1855 in Willunga, South Australia. She gave birth to her 17th child in 1878. Four of her children died in infancy.[73]

17 Ruth and Chalmers Montgomery Mrs. Montgomery gave birth to her 17th child in 1950. 14 of her children were alive at that time.[74]

17 Euna and Glen Boyd Mrs.Boyd had seventeen children, one passed away in infancy. She had mostly unassisted home births in the rural Appalachian mountains. She lived to be 94 years old, only two of her children preceded her in death. She lived in Grundy, Virginia her entire life.[75]

17 Unidentified Iranian couple A 50-year-old Iranian woman gave birth to her 17th child in January 1995, just as her oldest son turned 18.[76]

17 Zynaida and Vladimir Chernenko A family from Rancho Cordova, California, celebrated the birth of their 17th child in 2005. Eleven children were born in Ukraine, before the family moved to the U.S.[77]

17 Unidentified couple from Melbourne A woman from Melbourne who already had 12 children, gave birth to naturally-conceived quintuplets in 2010, at the age of 48. One of the quints died soon after birth.[78]

17 Maria and Vasiliy Chinnickaylo Maria Chinnickaylo of Daugavpils, Latvia, gave birth to her 17th child in February 2012. The Chinnickaylo family lives in the house built by Vasiliy and their eldest sons.[79]

17 Christi Cason Christi Cason of Lake Elsinore, California, gave birth to her 17th child in October 2013, at the age of 42. This was her 15th child together with husband David Cason, a 46-year-old network engineer, whom she married in 1991. The Cason family has ten boys and seven girls.[80] The Casons were featured on the TLC miniseries Kids by the Dozen.

16 Wendy Jeub Wendy Jeub of Monument, Colorado, gave birth to her 16th child in 2011 at the age of 44. It was her 14th child together with husband Chris Jeub, whom she married in 1991.[81] The Jeub family has nine girls and seven boys. The Jeub family was featured on the TLC miniseries Kids by the Dozen.

16 Maria of Spain and Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor
Only one Grandchild reached adulthood Philip III of Spain[citation needed]

16 Maria Theresa and Francis I, Holy Roman Emperor
13 survived infancy.[citation needed]

16 Brigitte Dillen A family from, Merksem, Antwerp, has gotten a lot of media attention when their 16th child was born in 2008. All 16 children, have a name that ends with ‘y'[citation needed]

16 Florence (née) Bourgeois and John Dooley 16 children, 14 survived infancy. Married in Chicago in 1910, they had nine boys and five girls born between 1912 and 1937. Florence Dooley was profiled in a 1985 Lisle Sun newspaper article for her 90th birthday. She died in 1995 at age 101, and John Dooley died in 1976 at age 91.[82][83]

16 Elizabeth Ann (née Strout) and Joseph Warner 16 children, 13 survived infancy. Married in Willunga, South Australia in 1858. Sister of Mary Ann Strout who married Isaac Goss and had 17 children – see above entry.[73]

16 Mary and John Wagner From Defiance, Ohio, married in 1914; all their children lived well into adulthood and produced 71 grandchildren.[84]

16 Vera and Vyacheslav Lapenko Vera Lapenko of Zelenograd, Russia, gave birth to her 16th child in August 2000, her eldest daughter was 24 at that time. Lapenko has 12 sons and 4 daughters.[85]

16 Angel Adams Twelve of her children lived with her in a motel room. These children have now been put into foster care.[86]

16 Sue and Noel Radford Sixteen children currently, the last being born in November 2012, the oldest being 23 years old at that time. The Radfords are amongst the largest families in modern Britain and support themselves by their family-run bakery. They live in a ten-bedroom converted nursing home.[87]

16 Salli Hilda Kortesalmi (b. Niemelä) and Juho Heikki Kortesalmi of Ranua, Finland Between 1918 and 1942, this couple from Northern Finland had sixteen children. One died as an infant, two in their early teens. The rest survived into adulthood. Very large families were, and still are, not at all uncommon in the Laestadian revivalmovement.[citation needed]

15 Anna of Bohemia and Hungary andFerdinand I, Holy Roman Emperor
13 survived infancy. Their children include Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor and Charles II, Archduke of Austria. They had 66 grandchildren.[citation needed]

15 Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz andGeorge III of the United Kingdom
13 survived infancy. Their children include Kings George IV of the United Kingdom, William IV of the United Kingdom, and Ernest Augustus I of Hanover.

15 Maria Anna of Bavaria (1551–1608) andCharles II, Archduke of Austria
Their grandson Leopold I, Holy Roman Emperor had 16 children, but with 3 different wives[citation needed]

15 Florence and Cornelius (Neil) Sweeney Florence and Neil got married in the summer of 1947 when Florence was 24. That next year they had their first child. They had 14 more and the last being born when Florence was 41. All 15 children survived to adulthood. All lived in Michigan until Neil’s death in 1996 and Florence’s death in 1999.[88]

15 莊(tjong?) Ki Y and Chen Y Jiao (2 nd wife) 15 children, the oldest born April 1951. The 莊 are amongst the largest families in Indonesia and support themselves by their family-run shop. No birth record can be produced to non family member in Indonesia.[citation needed]

15 Sarada Devi and Debendranath Tagore
15 children were born to noted Bengali philosopher and social reformer Debendranath Tagore and his wife Sarada Devi of theJorasanko Tagore family between 1840 and 1861, out of which 13 survived to adulthood. The youngest among them was the Bengali renaissance polymath, Rabindranath Tagore.[89]

14 Nadya Suleman
14 children, including the Suleman octuplets. The first octuplets to survive.[citation needed]

14 Mumtaz Mahal
14 children, the youngest born in 1631. She was the third wife of the Mughal emperor Shah Jahan who built the Taj Mahal in her memory.[citation needed]

14 Florence (née Fabré) Charlton 14 children, the youngest born in 1965 in San Bernardino, California. She was the wife of Charles Charlton (d. 2005). Her first great-great grandchild was born in 2014.[citation needed]

14 Brenda (née Cornett) Jurevis 14 children, the youngest born in December of 2002 in Chicago, Illinois. She is the wife of Dan Jurevis (m. 1975). She’s had a total of 17 pregnancies, 1 of which was a stillborn and 2 of which were miscarriages. They were all live births. She had 8 boys and 6 girls. She has 8 grandchildren, 5 of which are girls and 3 of which are boys.[citation needed]

Fathers[edit]
This section lists fathers who have fathered the most children, usually with many different women. Men who have parented large numbers of children through medical sperm donation are difficult to record. Numbers in italics are inexact.
# Children Father Notes
860 Ismail Ibn Sharif
Alaouite sultan of Morocco, said to have fathered 525 sons and 342 daughters with multiple wives and concubines.[90]

300–600 Bertold Wiesner
Fertility doctor, used his own sperm to impregnate customers between 1943 and 1962.[91] He was the father of Eva Ibbotson.

210 King Sobhuza II
King of Swaziland, lived 1899–1982; thought to have had 70 wives.[citation needed]

177 Sultan Ibrahim Njoya
King of Bamum in Cameroon, lived 1860–1933, and thought to have had ‘around 600’ wives; he was said to have had 149 children by December 1915.[92]

162+ Ramesses II
Egyptian pharaoh; see also: List of children of Ramesses II.[citation needed]

160+ Ancentus Akuku This Kenyan polygamist, full name Ancentus Ogwella Akuku, known as ‘Danger’, lived 1916–2010; he married ‘more than 100 times’ and had fathered ‘at least 160 children’ when he married his final wife in 2000.[93] An unsubstantiated article from theEast African Standard claimed 210 children: 104 daughters and 106 sons, by some 130 wives.[94]

158 Jack Kigongo Lived in Kateera, Uganda, 1909–2012; he had 20 wives, and when he died aged 103, around 500 grandchildren.[95]

150 Anonymous sperm donor One of the US sperm donors was found to have produced at least 150 children.[96] Inspiration for the 2011 Canadian filmStarbuck and its 2013 American remake Delivery Man.

142 Emperor Minh Mạng
Reported to have had 142 children.[citation needed]

121 Winston Blackmore
Leader of the Mormon fundamentalist sect called the Blackmore/Bountiful Community,[97] fathered children through as many as 25 wives.[98]

106–115 Saud of Saudi Arabia
King Saud, son of Ibn Saud of Saudi Arabia, lived 1902–1969; according to one source he had 52 sons and about 54 daughters from ‘a wider range of women’ than his father (who only had 22 wives);[99] however, another source credited him with 115.[100]

108+ Fath-Ali Shah Qajar
The second Shah of the Qajar dynasty of Iran, Fath-Ali (1772–1834), had 48 daughters and 60 sons ‘who survived infancy’, as a result of the 160+ marriages by which he had consolidated his control over the country. Many of his descendants went on to become prominent figures.[101]

<100 Augustus John
The Welsh painter is widely reported to have fathered ‘up to 100 children’, mostly outside marriage, although some believe that this figure is greatly exaggerated.[102]

99 Ed Houben Europe's most prolific sperm donor. Advocates the use of natural methods. [103]

94 Ziona Chana
Leader of a polygamist sect in the Mizoram state of India, has 94 children with 39 wives, as well as 33 grandchildren.[104]

93 Muhammad Daad Murad Mohammed Daad Murad Al Balushi, also known as Abu Faisal or 'Bid Daad', originally from Baluchistan but now naturalized in the Ajman, U.A.E., by April 2013 was 67 and was expexting his 94th child.[105] Over all he had 22 wives of whom 17 are still alive, 56 sons and 37 daughters, the eldest being a 38-year-old son and the youngest a three-month-old daughter.[106]

87 Feodor Vassilyev
Feodor Vassilyev, a peasant from Shuya, Russia, had 69 children with his first wife and 18 with second. At least 82 of his kids survived infancy.[63]

49–89 Goel Ratzon
Jewish cult leader and Messiah claimant, born in 1951; in 2010 he reportedly had ‘21 wives’, with whom he had fathered 49 children (CNN data), or ‘more than 30 wives’ and 89 children (Time magazine data). The statistics came to light when he was charged with enslavement and rape.[107][108]

82 Mongkut (Rama IV)
King Mongkut, Thailand’s fourth monarch; he had 32 wives and concubines during his lifetime who produced at least 82 children,[109] one of whom was Chulalongkorn.

77 Chulalongkorn (Rama V) King Chulalongkorn, Thailand’s fifth monarch; he had 92 consorts during his lifetime who produced 77 children,[109] of which 33 were sons and 44 were daughters.
75 Ibn Saud of Saudi Arabia
King Abdulaziz, the first monarch of Saudi Arabia, lived 1876–1953; he had 45 recorded sons and about 30 daughters from 22 wives and concubines; by 2001 he had 2,500–3,500 direct descendants.[99]

75 Screamin' Jay Hawkins
Rock and roll singer. 57 confirmed children, possibly as many as 75.[110]

75 Cecil Byran Jacobson
Fertility doctor suspected of fathering as many as 75 children by impregnating patients with his own sperm.[citation needed]

74 Ben Seisler Ben Seisler, who spent three years donating sperm to a Virginia sperm bank to offset law-school expenses, recently learned that his donations have produced 74 children.[111]

73 Buddha Loetla Nabhalai (Rama II)
King Buddha Loetla Nabhalai, Thailand’s second monarch; he had 73 children from 40 women.[109]

72–84 Ramon Revilla
Philippine actor and politician. These are the children known or almost certain to be Revilla's, but there are rumored to be many more, perhaps more than 100.[112][113]

65 Heber C. Kimball
First Counselor of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, fathered children through 17 of his 43 wives.[citation needed]

65 Rulon Jeffs
President of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, fathered children through as many as 75 wives.[114]

60 Warren Jeffs
President of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, fathered children through as many as 70 wives.[114]

57 Brigham Young
President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, fathered children through 16 of his 55 wives.[citation needed]

55 Kangxi Emperor
Chinese emperor, lived 1654–1722; he fathered 35 sons and 20 daughters from numerous wives and concubines.[citation needed]

54+ Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden
Yemeni emigrant to Saudi Arabia, married 22 times and fathered at least 54 children.[115] Osama bin Laden is believed to have been his 17th son.
51 Nangklao (Rama III)
King Nangklao, Thailand’s third monarch; he had 51 children from 37 women.[109]

50 Jean-Bédel Bokassa
Dictator of the Central African Republic, lived 1921–1996; had 17 wives.[citation needed]

58 Gennadij Raivich The neuroscientist Professor Gennadij Raivich, born in 1963, is believed to have fathered 58 children by sperm donation, advertised through unlicensed websites.[116]

46 Joe Jessop By February 2010 was 88 and lived in Short Creek, Utah, a 6,000-strong community of members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, fathered 46 children with five wives and had 239 grandchildren.[117]

45 Orson Pratt
Orson Pratt (Sr.), polymath, and an apostle of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, lived 1811–1881; he fathered 45 children through his ten wives.[citation needed]

30–45 Idi Amin
Dictator of Uganda, lived 1925–2003; he had 17 wives.[citation needed]

44 Jesse N. Smith
Jesse Nathaniel Smith, a Mormon pioneer, church leader, colonizer, politician, frontiersman, member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, fathered 44 children through his five wives.[118]

43 Anonymous sperm donor Danish sperm donor, who fathered 43 children at 14 different IVF clinics in 10 different countries, passed on a genetic disorder to at least five children born from IVF procedures. The man was allowed to continue donating sperm, despite Danish national rules restrict donations to 25 times.[119]

43 Philip IV of Spain
He fathered 13 legitimate children through his two wives and is said to have at least 30 illegitimate children with different women of all conditions.[120]

42 Buddha Yodfa Chulaloke (Rama I)
King Buddha Yodfa Chulaloke, Thailand’s first monarch; he had 42 children from 28 women.[109]

42 Lorenzo Snow
President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, fathered children through his 9 wives.[citation needed]

41 Friedrich von Kahlbutz A minor Prussian nobleman, lived 1651–1702; he fathered 11 children by his wife, and 30 by peasant women in his domain.[121] His mummy is preserved in a church in Neustadt in Brandenburg.

40+ Joseph Kony
Ugandan warlord, born in 1961; reported to have 88 ‘wives’.[citation needed]

38 Martin Pleyel Martin Pleyel was a schoolmaster from Ruppersthal in Lower Austria in the 18th century. He had 29 children with his first wife, Anna Theresia Pleyel. Their 24th child was composer Ignaz Pleyel (b. 1757).[122] He had another 9 children with his second wife, Maria Anna Pleyel.[123]

38 Ramon Revilla
Filipino actor and former senator, fathered children through 16 different women.[124] Claims to have fathered up to 72 children.

35+ King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia
The present King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, born in 1924; he has fathered at least 35 children to date, by thirteen wives.[125]

34 John Taylor
President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, fathered children through his seven wives.[citation needed]

33 Wilford Woodruff
President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, fathered children through his five (possibly 6) wives.[citation needed]

33+ Dillion "Dillon" Asher
Keeper of 1st toll-gate in Kentucky, near Pineville. Fathered at least 33 children with four women between 1804 and 1845.[citation needed]

32 Yuan Shikai
An important Chinese general and politician, fathered 32 children (17 sons and 15 daughters) through his wife and nine concubines.[126]

32 Albert Emund Barlow A follower of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints living in Utah, he was arrested at 52 for polygamy in 1955.[127] He was said to have fathered 32 children through his three wives.
31 Benjamin Clark A cousin of the explorer William Clark fathered 31 children by his two wives; seven of them died in infancy.[128]

30+ Jonas Savimbi
Angolan politician and guerrilla leader, lived 1934–2002, had fathered 29–31 children by 1999; number of wives not recorded.[129]

30+ Omar Bongo
President of Gabon, lived 1935–2009; number of wives not recorded.[citation needed]

30 Taksin, King of Thonburi Taksin, the King of the Thonburi Kingdom, had 21 sons and 9 daughters.[130]

30 Miles Park Romney
Mormon and great-grandfather of Mitt Romney, fathered 30 children with five wives;[131] he married the last in 1890, just before the 1890 Manifesto.

30 Tom Green
Mormon fundamentalist, fathered children through ten women.[132]

30 Fally Diallo Senegalese Imam El Hadji Fally Diallo has, up to 2014, fathered 30 children with three wives; he campaigns against family planning in Senegal, claiming that it is his God-given duty to multiply.[133]

27 Nathaniel J. Smith
Nathaniel J. Smith of Dayton, Ohio in the United Sates has fathered 12 boys and 15 girls with 17 partners as of 2013.[134]

26 Henry I of England
3 legitimate children by his first wife, 23 acknowledged illegitimate children.[citation needed]

26 Peter Rolfe
Peter Rolfe of the Isle of Wight has fathered 14 boys and 12 girls with 15 partners as of 2014.[135]

26 Michael Redman
Michael Redman of England has fathered 13 boys and 13 girls as of 2014.[136]

26 Kouayou Kouayou
Kouayou Kouayou of the Ivory Coast has fathered 26 children with 4 wives as of 2014.[137]

25 John James Clark Clark fathered 25 children by two wives, possibly 27.[citation needed]

25 Dr. Samuel Annesley
Susanna Wesley was the 25th of his children.[citation needed]

25 Toby Liston Liston fathered 25 children by two wives; the 23rd child became world heavyweight boxing champion, Charles ‘Sonny’ Liston.[citation needed]

24 Desmond Hatchett
Desmond Hatchett of Tennessee in the United States had fathered 24 legal children as of 2012. A court ruled that media reports of an inflated count of 30 children were not correct.[138]

24 Robert I, Duke of Parma
Fathered 24 children with his two wives, 12 from each marriage.[citation needed]

24 Desmond Hatchett Fathered 24 children, according to Knox County, Tennessee Juvenile Court records. A Los Angeles Times article and Memphis television station WREG erroneously reported that he fathered 30 children.[139]

24 Osama bin Laden
The infamous terrorist fathered 24 children by five wives. See Bin Laden family.[140]

24 Brady Williams Fathered 24 children, with five wives all made by polygamy, 14 daughters and 10 sons.[citation needed]

23 King Mswati III
King of Swaziland, born 1968; he has 14 wives (as of 2012).[citation needed]

22+ Jacob Zuma
President of South Africa, born in 1942; he has fathered at least 22 children to date, with five wives and some others out of wedlock; some sources claim 24 children.[citation needed]

22 Joseph Smith Jessop
Co-founder of Hildale, Utah; fathered 22 children, 14 by his first wife and 8 by his second wife.[citation needed]

23 Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum
Ruler of Dubai, born in 1949; he has 23 officially acknowledged children, nine sons and fourteen daughters from a total of 6 wives.[citation needed]

22 Ed Rudolph Fathered 22 children, one of them being 3-time gold winning Olympic athlete Wilma Rudolph.[141]

22 Richard Lovell Edgeworth
An Anglo-Irish politician, who fathered 22 children with four wives.[citation needed]

22 James II of England
The children were born between 1660 and 1692. Of these, 15 were legitimate: eight by his first wife, Anne Hyde, and seven by his second wife, Mary of Modena.[citation needed]

22 Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland
English nobleman and grandfather of kings Edward IV and Richard III. He had 14 of his children with his second wife Joan Beaufort, granddaughter of King Edward III.[citation needed]

22 Nanu Ram Jogi Indian farmer, fathered 22 children with 4 wives. He was said to be the world’s oldest father when he fathered his 21st child at the age of 90,[142] and in 2012 he claimed to have fathered another child at the age of 96,[143] apparently equalling another Indian, Ramjit Raghav, as the oldest father.
21 John VI of Nassau-Dillenburg
John VI, Count of Nassau in Dillenburg, lived 1536–1606; he fathered 21 children (9 sons and 12 daughters) with three wives. (There were also three stillborn sons.)[citation needed]

21 Carlos Gracie
Martial arts practitioner, lived 1902–1994; number of wives not recorded.[citation needed]

20 Charlemagne
Emperor of the Franks, lived 742–814; fathered 20 children with three wives and five concubines, between 757 and 807.[citation needed]

20 Johann Sebastian Bach
German composer, lived 1685–1750; fathered children with two wives.[citation needed]

20 Henry Mosley born 1904 in Template:Macon, Mississippi.He had about 20 children with three wives and some concubines and about four children didn't live to see adulthood[citation needed]

17 Wun Hoke Kwa
Taiwanese import/export merchant who lived in Burma and later immigrated to the United States of America, lived 1909-1999; He fathered 17 children with two wives, who were sisters. All living children now reside in New York City and Toronto.[citation needed]

16 Shah Jahan
The fifth Mughal emperor of India, He fathered 14 children from his wife Mumtaz Mahal and two others from his other two wives.[citation needed]

Actually,the problems we have now with the New Gen Y or Gen Z is due to the weaknesses and poor parental guidance plus upbringing of our kids especially on discipline and moral n spiritual values!Lets see,why?

Mother’s Day have just passed by and we all rejoice as to what a Great Mother (and Father) we all have all this while.

However the facts and datas never lie and we have now in Malaysia as well in the world,such facts as:

• poor discipline among youths of GenZ and GenY even Gen X
• criminal cases happening everywhere involving these new kids
• smoking,drugs-are all common usage among these kids
• sex without barriers are frequent among them
• now-even the President of USA approve Gay Marriages-what is happening?is it so important for being elected again?
• parents have just no power or authority among their children
• school children are behaving rudely and “worst kind” to teachers and fellow students
• babies being discarded as a result of sexual relationships without marriage
• Mat Rempit
• Minah Bohsia
• and so many more…..really many…

Ok,so what to do or take good actions?

Its the PARENTS really the Biggest Problem,why?

They have forgotten their real roles as Parents in areas or responsibilities like:

• upbringing of their kids from baby to teen and adult
• instilling good discipline in their kids all the time
• respect and have noble values in their kids
• produce kids with great character although the family is not rich or have all the things in life
• learn to excel and work hard and smart for a great future
• reprimand their kids when something wrong is done and not to do it again
• benchmark with the best around
• and many more..really many more…

With all the above constraints and problems,surely we cannot produce our Young Gen Z or Gen Y to become Great Kids or Great Teens and Great Adults.Only Great Children can help make a Great World to LIVE by ALL.

So,if we failed and make hopeless or nonsense managment in our Kids Live then we will help create hopeless and nonsense youths of the world which is what is really happening now all over Malaysia and Rest of the World.

With lack of Religious education and guidance we also create youths that forget the Powers of Allah (God Almighty) and they blatantly disobey Allah’s SWT Commands and Prophet Muhammad pbuh teachings etc..

Islam is a Religion of AdDeen and Great Success if only all the Muslims abide to the Quran and Sunnah.Since Muslims are also divided in more than 73 sects except the Sunnah Wal Jamaah then Muslims will also be following not the straight path and will definitely join Iblis (satan) to the Hellfire (Neraka)

Parents Role is ultimate now and most important then all the AGENDAS of the world like Economic Growth,Sustainable Development,Poverty Eradication,Global Warming,Techonology Development etc..If we ignore and dont do our 100% efforts to make Parents Right then the World must be ready for more disruptions,disorders,indiscipline,poor values,and poor results with millions or billions of spoilt kids!

Parents are so important to help the World Survive and become Better all the time!

Lets do our Parental Role right,all the time and any where we are!Its our salient and rightful responsibility not to our kids only but to Allah SWT and also from the teachings of Prophet Muhammad pbuh.Inshallah.

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Really wonderful -see and listen to young kids singing memorable hits of yesterdays-bring back fond memories not to Ramli only but maybe to all of you above 60s and 70s..and maybe 80s++

Ref: YouTube videos

 

If Malaysia “dream” of winning the World Cups of Rugby,Football,Hockey or other sports then start from kids in primary schools and keep track of their performance not “tidak apa” attitude..lots of great talents were wasted due to this attitude!

Winning World Championship is “no joke” and need lots of hard work,smart thinking and planning plus all those scientific and careful n dedicated coaching and follow ups.

Sports is no more for “simple thinking or foolish dreams” BUT need lots of leadership,forward thinking and execution plus great passion and dedication by Malaysian Sports Men and Women alike.

Start from Young is the way to do it and we need TDR also.TDR means:

• Hard Training
• Good Diet
• Ample Rest

This TDR Philosophy was made known by Ramli’s Boxing Advisor Mr.Henry Tongmo O from Korea way back in 1997 when Ramli launched the Pro-Boxing Sports in Malaysia and the “Thriller at the Peak” Pro Boxing Championship at Genting Highlands Hotel on 7thMarch,1997.The rest is history.

See some photos of Ramli’s Sporting History starting way back at Batu Road School from 1966 onwards when Ramli was in Standard Four.

Knowledge is POWER!Ramli & Maimunah’s Children -From kids to Graduates and soon Adulthood.Hope they become Great Leaders and “Hartawan & Dermawan” for the Good of Islam and Humanity!Inshallah!

Here are some great moments in Ramli & Maimunah Children’s Lifetime:

Ramli & Maimunah’s children are: (Age as of 2011)

Zaim Aimran (26)

Zaim Ikhwan (24)

Nur Amirah (23)

Nur Arina (19)

Zaim Bukhairi (16)

Remember and Apply Ramli’s 3Es of No-Nonsense Management Philosophy:

EXCELLENCE

EXCITEMENT

ENTHUSIASM

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Malaysian Youths if do not know the value of DISCIPLINE they will soon become Malaysia’s Biggest Danger and Hindrance of a Nation of Noble Character,Values and Great Power!Read on…

Ramli was surprised that his youngest son Zaim Bukhairi (only 16years old) have friends who Ramli just observed behaving with poor discipline,no manners,revving their motorbikes like they own the streets of Shah Alam,talking like shouting,maybe also the smoking type and maybe never pray their solat 5 times a day and what have you?Are these kind of Gen Y or teens we want for FUTURE MALAYSIA?

Who helped shape their character and behaviours what more their  attitude,skills and manners?Of course their parents are the KEY PLAYERS and also their teachers in school and elder brothers and sisters and people old enough to advice them!So,maybe these KEY PLAYERS  are not performing their roles & responsibilities well enough and if we rate them maybe they are at the rating of 2/10 ie.POOR

What to do?

Ramli is getting worried about “wiwi” whom we in the family called my youngest son!We allow him to choose his friends or buddies but now there are strong doubts this kind of friends may not seem to be good enough to help him establish a strong discipline person with good character,strong motivation for success,honest,polite,trusty and so many other good values that we want our children to possess and reflect in their personality.

Wiwi may have the strong base of loving,caring,discipline from his family BUT if he is weak in maintaining his stand of good discipline he may falter or lose all these good values and start possessing all the bad values that his friends may passed on or influenced him or worst still get “trapped” in their bad environment and find difficulty to “get out” of the gang!

So,what to do urgently and more actions needed?

Ramli in his book “REVOLUSI AKSI” have stressed the 4 Main Elements in the Revolusi Aksi Cycle that are :

• Thinking (Pemikiran)
• Doing (Tindakan)
• Measurement (Pengukuran)
• Discipline (Disiplin)

Based on the 4th Element ie.DISCIPLINE it shows the great importance that we must focus to make DISCIPLINE IMPORTANT ALL THE TIME in our cycle of living towards EXCELLENCE.

After we have done the 3 ELEMENTS well,we must ensure to establish DISCIPLINE in our processes,work,projects and environment.If you read the book,you will undertstand the 7 factors involve in the DISCIPLINE element.These 7 Factors are:

• Rukun Iman (as in Islam)
• Shitsuke (as in 5S Philosophy)
• Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR)
• Kepimpinan (Leadership aspects)
• Kumpulan (Team aspects)
• Komuniti (Community aspects)
• Global aspects

Based on these wide approaches,DISCIPLINE must be establish at all these 7 areas and by instilling discipline at the highest level,we can at least ensure we can HOLD THE GAINS or INSTITUTIONALISED all our hard work of the 3 earlier elements and sustain and maintain all the good results always and keep on improving all the time.Only with a discipline approach we can sustain all these good results .

Ok,so how we relate this importance of discipline to our children?

The Family and School must become the important “vehicle” to “build” discipline in our kids to the highest level like those we see being produced at Military Schools like WESTPOINT IN USA and RMC IN MSIA  and others.

These are establishments that are well respected around the world and they continually produced graduates of great callibre and later become Captains of Industry like CEOs,Directors and Important Business and Govt Leaders.

So,maybe our schools have to make discipline a core focus area by all Pengetua and Gurubesar and with the support of the PK HEM incharge of discipline of the school plus the Prefects Board hopefully the school discipline level will become good to best and all cases of indisciplinary acts like bullying,”ponteng”,smoking in school,theft,absence from class,poor results due to laziness and so many other factors can be slowly reduced and finally eliminated.However that is not easy to do or achieve now in our SRK and SMK.

Our teachers and students now fear the “bad hats” of their school and these bad hats are ready to create a lot of mischiefs,harmful actions and “what have you” that make the teachers and fellow students life stressful,miserable and disgusting at times since like nothing or no good actions can be done?

So,like the behaviours of my WIWI friends that I observed today,we must be worried and can we take enough good effective actions to help them become more discipline and become better students and individuals when they complete school?

Now,the use of the ROTAN  or caned is almost like banned in school and any small canning action by a teacher will create great uproar by the parents involved.The parents will not allow such canning by teachers to their children even though their children have created a serious indiscipline act like stealing,bullying or smoking in school regularly.

Can we allow the teachers to rotan our kids?Can we personally hand over our own rotan to the teachers to canned our kids if they go “out of control” or we ourselves canned our kids if informed by the teachers concerned?maybe many of the parents of today refused or like “afraid” to punish their kids!We have become so “soft” and “so kind” to our kids not like the times of our own parents and grandparents before.WE MUST CHANGE OR TRANSFORM to become Great Parents of Strong Discipline to ur Kids!

So,what other actions can we take to establish DSICIPLINE to our children?

If we do not see this as a Major Threat and Danger to Malaysia,then maybe by 2020 our Gen Y & Gen X will become “USELESS MALAYSIANS” where they become more of a liability to Malaysia rather than a strong asset or bring great impact to Malaysia’s results!We need millions of Discipline Rakyat to uplift and upgrade Malaysia’s World Class Performance and if at this early age of our kids that lack all these strong fundamentals of discipline,good values,strong moral values and motivation to succeed ,we definitely will not reach our aspirations of Vision 2020 that was coined in 1981.

DISCIPLINE is and must be everyone’s responsibility and like in Ramli’s Revolusi Aksi Cycle,only with Discipline install can we ensure our work,our projects,our ASPIRATIONS are realized on time and in full.

We need more ideas and actions to make Discipline Work in Malaysia especially for our young generations like GenZ,Gen Y and Gen X and when they grow up as Leaders,Followers and Baby Boomers Gen,they become a great asset to Malaysia and eliminate all the wastages and errors that an Indiscipline Generations can create or produce.

DISCIPLINE is so IMPORTANT and we all must make it take place in the best of time and in what ever ways even if we must or need to ROTAN our children before they face the ‘REAL ROTAN” if they are sentenced to PRISON AND THE ROTAN for criminal acts or indisciplined acts!

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Amazingly,how some people have 28 children and still enjoy living at its best,really!

Ramli have 5 children and all of them have really grown up to be in the Gen Y and Gen Z age group.

My eldest Zaim Aimran,25 is now a qualified Engineer majoring in Mechatronics but now working like a Project Manager for a Bumiputra A Class Contractor.My second child is Zaim Ikhwan finished his Form 5 and now aged 23 who assist me and my wife at home.He have an OKU status being a slow learner and need our care and focus to prepare him for a better future especially his own life.He is excellent at home with all the house work and always frequent the nearby masjid all the time.

My eldest daughter Nur Amirah 22 is now at her final year doing her Degree in Economics at UMT in Kuala Trengganu.My youngest daughter Nur Arina 18,is now doing her Diploma in Banking at UiTM Kota Samarahan Campus in Sarawak and my youngest son Zaim Bukhairi 15 is now preparing for his PMR at his SMK Section 18 in Shah Alam.

Well,that’s Ramli children profile and he only have 5 kids BUT my cousin’s husband Johar Alwi have siblings as many as 28 of them,WOW!Can you imagine his father detailing one by one of all his children and hoping all of them can lead a great life with lots of hope,prospects and good living.However,his father have 4 wives and Ramli have only 1 (as of today,hahaha)

Johar is the 28th child of the Great Happy Big Family of this Hj.Alwi from Batu Pahat and maybe like many Jawakians,they are capable of having many wives and producing as many kids possible.How many children have you by the way?

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How much do you really love your wife or wives and also your children-Read on….

Ramli have just read this interesting article at thestar.com.my and its about the Muslim women rights to claim her fair share of her husband’s wealth as a result of his sudden demise or divorced.Like some of my uncles,they have been very far sighted and practical where they make sure all their children have a house in their names and this arrangement is made known to all family members concerned while their father is still alive and healthy but how many Muslim fathers act in this way and all wealth distribution are made when they are no more around and in Islam all wealth distribution are based on the Faraid System.In this article the writer explained about how a Muslim wife or wives can claim their rights to the husband’s wealth based on “harta pencaraian” clause or joint assets accrued during the marriage clause.This is worthwhile to pursue since the surviving wife or wives also need money to sustain her livelihood and her children and not have to live in misery what more loneliness and no man to look after her unless she remarry or forced to remarry to sustain her livelihood and her children.

Hopefully all men including Ramli realized the importance of our husband’s responsibilities not just when we are alive and strong but also when we are gone and how our wife or wives and children can survive and live happily always without our presence and comfort.

Please read this article below:

Sunday April 4, 2010

A wife’s rights to hubby’s assets

By SHAHANAAZ HABIB

newsdesk@thestar.com.my

KUALA LUMPUR: Very few Muslim women know that they are entitled to claim harta sepen­carian which can amount to half of their husband’s assets upon the latter’s death.

It is common for women to stake a claim for harta sepencarian (joint assets accrued during the marriage) in divorce but not in death, said AmanahRaya Legacy Services CEO Rafie Omar.

“This is because Muslim widows do not know their rights and entitlement. They think that if they have children, they are entitled only to one-eighth of the husband’s assets (under the faraid system) and if they have no children, they think they can get only a quarter of the husband’s assets.

“But women in Malaysia contribute to the success of their husbands, so the women should claim and are entitled to a portion of the harta sepencarian if they can show they contributed,” said Rafie in an interview.

He said this was on top of the faraid (Islamic inheritance law and distribution of estate) portion the wife would get.

Hence the difference between Case 1 and Case 2. In the first case, Zainab knew that as a wife, she could claim up to 50% of her spouse’s assets under harta sepencarian. So she received RM500,000 from her share of harta sepencarian and another RM62,500 as her faraid share (which is one-eighth of the remaining RM500,000).

Kamariah, on the other hand, was not aware of harta sepencarian and made no claim for it. As a result she received only RM125,000 which is one-eighth of RM1mil.

(In both cases, the rest of the money and assets were divided among the children with the boys getting twice the share of their sisters).

Under the faraid system, a wife with children would get one-eighth of her husband’s assets and she is entitled to a quarter of her husband’s assets if they have no children.

“If I die leaving RM100,000 in assets and my widow can show that she contributed to the sum, she is entitled to half of it and will get RM 50,000 first. Then from the remaining RM50,000, she will get her one-quarter share (if the couple has no kids) or one-eighth (with kids),” he said.

Rafie said even if the woman was a housewife who stayed home and looked after the kids, she could still claim for harta sepencarian.

“She can say that having a good wife at home made his life comfortable and easy for him to earn a living. If she can prove this in court, depending on the judge and evidence given, she is likely to be apportioned 30% to 50% of the harta sepencarian,” he added.

When such a claim is pending in court, Amanahraya (Malaysia’s premier trustee company) would suspend the faraid distribution until the matter is settled“We will pay the harta sepencarian entitlement first. And then distribute the balance under the faraid,” said Rafie.

Under the faraid system, if a wife has no children and no male relative, she gets a quarter of her husband’s assets and the remaining three quarters go to Baitul Mal (the treasury under the states’ Islamic councils), which is why it is important for her to claim the assets under harta sepencarian.

If the wife can prove to Baitul Mal that she was the one who paid for everything, it may even renounce its right to the assets.

On polygamous marriages, the wives should also know their rights to the harta sepencarian.

Citing an example, Rafie said that Mr A married Madam B for 20 years and acquired RM10,000 during their marriage. Then took a second wife, a Madam C, who is the daughter of a rich man. His business thrived because of her contacts and he subsequently acquired RM10mil. Later, he married Madam D and did not acquire much during his marriage with the third woman.

Would all his three wives be entitled to equal share after his death?

“If he leaves behind RM10mil upon death, it is not fair to his second wife if the wife’s portion of one-eighth under faraid is to be divided equally among the three wives (with each getting a 1/24 share). Because it was during his second marriage that he made his money. “So, his second wife should claim under the harta sepencarian that it was during his marriage to her that he became richer. She has to prove that it was the second marriage that made him richer and not the first or third. If she does that, she can walk away with up to 50% of his assets,” said Rafie.

Case 1: Zai­nab’s husband Ismail dies and leaves behind assets comprising savings, EPF and a link house worth a total of about RM1mil. They have two boys and two girls. She receives RM562,500 as her share from the assets.

Case 2: Kamariah is married to Sabri who leaves behind assets worth about RM1mil when he dies. However, she is apportioned only RM125,000. She too has two boys and two girls.

Miracles of Islam in Young Children -Allahuakabar!

Videos in youtube on these Miracle Kids who are all Blessed by Allah SWT with Great Knowledge of the Holy Quran,Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad and so many other “special gifts” from Allah SWT.

Discipline -the key to human survival as of today!

In Ramli’s book “Revolusi Aksi” or Action Revolution you can see the 4 Elements in the Revolusi Aksi Cycle of Actions and they comprised of:

1.Thinking (Pemikiran)

2.Doing (Tindakan)

3.Measuring (Pengukuran)

4.Discipline (Disiplin)

In these 4 elements there are also their own  7 factors and together they will act in harmony as to produce the right results when we apply this Action Revolution Cycle of Actions.Please do read this book to know more before you act for results.

Today,Ramli wants to futher stressed the importance of Discipline.

The moment our kid starts growing up,we must teach them the importance of discipline.LIke in Islam,we are advised to teach our children at the age of 7 how to pray 5 times a day and when they reach the age 10,if they dont pray you must beat them with the “rotan” or cane so that they are discipline enough to know the punishment of not praying since they been taught about praying 5 times a day when they were at age 7 already.

This reflects in our growing up years where if  you are late to school the discipline teacher will record your name and send you later to detention class as a punishment for non obedience to the rules of the school.Same goes when you start working in a company and when you are late to work you too will be given a show cause letter from HR Dept as to why you are late many times or not improving your performance even ample warning are given to you by the company.

So,discipline is a key factor to teach us the values of being obedient,steadfast,good leadership,time management,persistence,quality and so many other good attributes that a person must possess if they want to be Excellent People.

Nowadays,the parents are slacking in discipline and “too polite” with their children and based on Ramli’s analysis maybe thats why we have so many juvenile crimes,mischiefs,indiscipline and worst still child murderers in our own backyard!

Children if not taught the importance of discipline then they will become rude,impolite,no patience,lazy,easily give up,poor leadership,poor grooming and etiquette,and so many bad character that is a liability to human society rather than add great value to us all.

The many “mat rempits”,”bohsia or bohjan”,”kaki lepak”,bullies,drug addicts,smugglers,snatch theives,gangsters and others are the outcome when a child is not given the necessary discipline and not enough mental strengths to face life with courage,honesty and patience.

As all of us know,the SATAN or DEVIL is always beside us to “make us be like them” and when you behave like the Satan or Iblis family then discipline is not your priority anymore maybe the discipline to be bad or evil is your priority now!

How to instill discipline in our life?If you read Ramli’s book the 7 factors that constitute in the 4th Elements of Revolusi Aksi Cycle of Actions clearly spelt out the 7 areas of focus that you can concentrate and act upon.

Please read Ramli’s book but at this time around Ramli only have the Malay edition and need to get this book translated to the English version for all those non Malay readers.

Some pictures of Ramli’s book: Revolusi Aksi